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Okay, so I guess being gay means you won't have any friends or family then. Alright then. Because you can't survive on one good family member or one good friend? You don't need a LARGE group of people to accept you and support you. You just need one.
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That's what I'm saying, we're fortunate to be in a time where people can find that person (or even more people), in the past there was a time (and it's still this way in some places) where prospects for finding even that one person were slim to nil, so the choices were either hide it, come out and be outcast, or kill yourself because both choices are worse than death to you.
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No, some people don't have the balls to do what they need to in order to live their life. I accept this. I don't understand it, but I accept it. And feel sorry for them.
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Cold. Everyone is different. Some people can deal with some things better than others, just because someone can't deal with being outcast by everyone they love they warrant pity?
It's not about balls, everyone has strengths and weaknesses, and being put into a position where your weakness is exploited isn't about balls, any more than you not being able to bench press a fridge is about balls.
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I'm not even sure where to begin on this one.
Experience it moreso then actually living this lifestyle or from the side of those who *think* they know what its about to be one? Clarify that one for me!
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Experience it differently than you seem to have then.
So what do you say to those others who talk about coming close to or attempting suicide because of their sexuality and how those around them react? Is it simply an issue of not having enough balls?
It seems to be a lot more complicated than that.
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Okay, so to back up here. It's human to be a social animal and need family and friends, but only acceptable if your straight.
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No, where did I say that??
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If you're straight and lose your family and friends because of a heterosexual relationship that isn't accepted that's okay. You'll find a surrogate family and friends and your life will be just as fine. You don't really need that real family.
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Of course not, that's despicable, where did I say it's ok?
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But if you're gay and lose your family and friends because of your gay choices, well that's much worse.
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It could be much worse depending...
Hetrosexual couple A gets married and gets rejected by their family and friends.. they move to a new part of town and make new friends, it's terrible but they'll still be part of society.
Homosexual couple B gets married and gets rejected by their family and friends.. they move to a new part of town and make new friends, it's terrible but they'll still be part of society.
The same right? Rewind 50 years. Now couple B moves, but still can't make friends or even be publicly homosexual because they'll be ostracized by society, people react negatively, violently sometimes.. or this all takes place in another country where homosexuality is illegal, they can't move, they can't marry, they can't even express their sexuality.
So yes I think that socially it was (and still is, the degree changing by location) far harder for homosexuals socially. I'm still unclear here though as to actually if you are disagreeing that it was harder, or just how much harder it was.
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I'd like to know when that "non-trivial" portion of society is going to start protesting against the copious amounts of straight people that are disease ridden from sleeping with numerous sex partners they don't know the first names of and commit much worse atrocities on society.
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Good question, I'd like to know as well! I never said those people were rational, but rational or irrational they are still out there.
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I have gay friends, and their partner count is much lower then all of my straight friends. Not all homosexuals sleep with everything that moves.
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Of course, I didn't claim otherwise.
Are we crossing wires here?
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When I was 17. Before that it was actually only to men because that's all I felt attraction too. Probably should point out at this time I am a girl.
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So at 17 you just decided to be attracted to females? Or you discovered it?
Even if you decided it, wouldn't there still have to be some attraction already there? I mean I could decide today "I'm going to be attracted to men" and start dating men, but deciding that isn't going to help in the bedroom when I fail to have an, um, physical reaction to the situation because I'm not attracted to the other (unfortunate
) guy.
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I have chosen to be bisexual because yes, while I was born and raised that the only relationships acceptable were those between men and women, I chose to disregard all of that when I was younger and explore relationships with women because I can't understand the hang up about why it matters whether its someone of the opposite sex or same sex when it comes to love. If you love someone, be with them.
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You have chosen to be bisexual but I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. When I asked "You could choose to be a homosexual? REALLY?" I didn't mean choosing your actions, I meant choosing your attractions. So you chose to explore your bisexuality, but you didn't sit down one day and say "I'm going to become attracted to females today" right?
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And yes, I am attracted to both sexes equally. Although I'm sure someone here will make the comment I only do it for attention and everything else that goes along in the stigma of being bi.
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Lol, well I'd ask those same people who say you do it for attention how often they'd had a same sex relationship for attention.
Could you be bisexual if you were not attracted to both sexes?