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Originally Posted by Jetsfan

I can understand your arguement, but, society sold you a lie.

Society told you that if you were really, really nice to women, hold doors for them, offer your seat, buy them drinks at the bar, listen while they babble on about their problems et al that you would be irresistable to them.

The truth is women see this as begging, and begging is a turn-off.

Wow, your messed up.