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Originally Posted by Azure
Meh.
Gay marriage is all about the rights of the people, and anyone with an ounce of common sense would realize that because those rights are controlled by the government, and the government should be separate from the church, its pretty stupid to apply Biblical teachings to how a government should function.
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Agreed but lets face reality, Religion is pretty much the sole obstacle to equal marriage/civil rights all over the world. Religious people elect and vote for those people who make laws, those who make laws in those nations still thinking being gay is a sin are likely religious as well.
To suggest this is a battle of government separation of church and state is naive dude, the battle is the strongly held convictions of the electorate who vote the buffoons in America into power to protect their narrow/outdated bronze age beliefs.
The government shouldn't but they do, and you're not gonna win a fight to get this turned into a different debate, because logic isn't the champion in this battle.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Except that isn't what I'm saying.
The general population during those times cared so deeply about their divine right to be in 'control'....that they took away the basic right of freedom from someone who was just a different color.
Course, when they did that, absolutely people should stand up and fight back. Especially on an issue as black and white as that.
And like CC said, they went about it differently.
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So the divine right they hold now over a people they deem sinful is deeply different in what way?
This issue is pretty much the same, if people are born and have no control over their sexuality, which more and more science is telling us; then there is no justification to not give those people the same rights as we give to heterosexual people. Its a battle of rights vs holding on to outdated and dogmatic beliefs.
So we knock them for some extravagant displays while they are a minority within the parades, and ignore the big obvious problem that they are having these parades for, inequality, intolerance, human rights..
Its sickening to hear stories of people told they can't see their dying partner in the US because they are not legally married, denying basic human rights to a group of people because you like a book and you think its super special is ridiculous.
If it was possible to deem Marriage devoid of religious dogma and allow the government to give full rights to people and not administer it, but thats a pipe dream to say the least, so we fight the battle on the battle ground on which it exists.