The thread title reminds me of the High Heat Baseball 2001 ads on tv with Sammy Sosa saying "But it's so reeeeeeeeeeal?!".
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"For thousands of years humans were oppressed - as some of us still are - by the notion that the universe is a marionette whose strings are pulled by a god or gods, unseen and inscrutable." - Carl Sagan
Freedom consonant with responsibility.
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