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Old 06-07-2010, 03:07 AM   #427
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Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame View Post
I believe the people on that boat had every right to defend themselves from an aggresively hostile boarding attempt in international waters. When you use violence against people, its rather naive not to expect a violent response in return, no? The difference in this case, is that one side had helicopters, assault rifles, stun grenades and body armour, and the other had makeshift clubs and kitchen knives.

Remember, the activists resisted non-lethally and rendered assistance to the injured, captured commandos. The Israelis killed 9 and wounded dozens more, and according to this report, one wounded activist was left to bleed for 12 hours before being airlifted to Istanbul, and even then the Israelis refuse to hand over his medical records.


I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence.... I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honour than that she should, in a cowardly manner, become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonour. Gandhi

Just hilarious....

When you use violence against people, its rather naive not to expect a violent response in return, no?

I agree fully. Hence when the Israeli commandos were ambushed they had the right to use force. People got hurt, people got killed. Go figure.

Want to see the difference between peace activists and combatants?
Here’s the aerial footage showing Israeli soldiers boarding the Rachel Corrie and taking control of the vessel. There was no violence and no one was killed or injured. Of course, there was no ambush by violent radical Islamists either. Funny how those two factors seem to coincide.


activists resisted non-lethally and rendered assistance to the injured, captured commandos.
Clubbing someone over the head with a sharpened bar, with knives, slingshots, tossing people over the side down is not acting non-lethally. You may check the Canadian criminal code for that...if common sense is unavailable.

one wounded activist was left to bleed for 12 hours before being airlifted to Istanbul, and even then the Israelis refuse to hand over his medical records.

Hmmm......12 hours before treatment? It sounds like the Israeli healthcare has a very Canadian problem! That said when you start a fight you will hardly receive the kids-glove treatment and moaning about it looks nefarious.

HOWEVER, this report paints a far less sympathetic picture.

Ahmed Luqman Talib, 20, was shot when Israeli commandos stormed the flotilla of boats heading to Gaza, killing nine activists and injuring dozens more.
He has been in hospital since and was deemed unfit to travel when Israel deported hundreds more activists and media earlier this week.
His wife Jerry Campbell and sister Maryam Talib were allowed to stay in Israel until he was discharged.
Foreign affairs officials in Canberra say the trio have now been deported to Turkey, where Mr Talib is likely to remain in hospital for some time.

Allowing family to stay with him and releasing him when he is physically able to move is a sure sign of torture.
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