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Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan@Sep 2 2004, 07:21 PM
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@Sep 3 2004, 12:49 AM
I don't think this is an article at all - calling it an article suggests it's news, which is supposed to be objective, when obviously that's not the point of the piece of writing.
I'd call it an opinion piece, so he's allowed to have whatever bias he wants.
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Very true, and where exactly did I say he wasn't allowed to have that opinion? What I did say is that using this guys opinion to support something that you are floating as FACT is weak at best. Make sense now?
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Makes sense, no doubt (esp. after re-reading your post...my bad)...but, I'm not floating anything around as fact.
It seemed to me that Lurch, the original poster, posted an op-ed piece he agreed with/liked, (I assume) posted it, and pointed out why he agreed with it/why he liked it...not "here's my opinion, and here's an objective article supporting it". [/b][/quote]
I agree, Lurch was just explaining we he liked it, why it made sense to him.
Opinionated or not though, there are some facts within the article. The fact that no weapons were found in Iraq (the author even pulls the punch to keep it fair by saying non were found, not that there were never any which it seems more and more likely that was true) that 1000 American died to find out there were no weapons, the fact that the economy which was a surplus now has the biggest deficit in history, the fact that there are 1,000,000 new jobless during Bush's tenure as president. You can't say this is opinion, these are facts, supported by numbers.
I read about the 1,000,000 jobless just very recently on a CNN webpage. And because I know some people might accuse this of being leftist propaganda reporting I'll just say they had a link to a .gov site that showed the numbers. It's fact. Sorry, but it is, and so are the other points above.
Yes the article is slanted, but it's not purely an opinion piece.
The responses at the bottom of the are interesting too. The comparison of Cheney's record to what the Repubs are saying about Kerry was especially interesting to me.
I find it interesting how people can deny facts and get mad when someone points out something to them. Or at the very least, very defensive.
Not saying this as a endorsement for Kerry. I know he has his problems and hypocracies too. All politicians do. I just find it interesting when people get so defensive over opinions other have or even hard facts that can't be denied.