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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
You said "nobody seems to care", which sure sounds like you think it gets ignored to me.
And if you think what you pointed out is true, how could you possibly be posting links all day to atrocities carried out by people who aren't from Israel?
I think the disconnect here is that you seem to think we should be holding fundamentalist lunatics to the same standard we hold the Israeli military. That there should be a discussion here every time some nutcase does something crazy in the Middle East or in Africa, and the fact that there isn't means something perhaps sinister.
The implication appears to be "you guys only bring up something bad when Israel is involved, and then you bash them for it". It's not true.
But it is true that a lot of crazy stuff happens that doesn't get the same amount of coverage as when Israel is involved. You know why? Because Israel is an ally of Canada, a democracy with a functional government and military. They are not a bunch of lunatics with a death wish. When they do something wrong (and some of us think they do wrong occasionally), it is news.
When some crazy son of a bitch attacks a hospital or blows up a house of worship he has some inconsequential theological disagreement with, it's just another day in the news. When an ally and a democracy do something wrong (including apparently killing a Canadian citizen in international waters), it's a big deal.
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So we both agree that we only seem to care because Israel is similar to Canada.
So Israel did not drop a bomb from a helicopter and sink the ship, nor did they launch a torpedo, nor did they lob a few grenades, which would have been a 'lunatic' thing to do. What they did do is board the ship, just like Canadian soldiers would have in a similar situation. What worked on five other boats did not work on one of the boats, as a mob attacked the soldiers. So was this mob made up of those 'lunatics' you speak of? How do you battle 'lunatics'? Soldiers were not going to leave their 'brothers' to die on that boat, and we are where we are.
You see, in your own answer you describe how we view Israel with a different set of rules and standards, yet discount the other set of rules Israel is battling within groups like Hamas. Once we understand what Israel is up against, you quickly see why it is important for the IDF to board a boat and investigate the contents. And you can begin to see why people on a boat are willing to provoke the bee hive, since they have a different set of rules than the soldiers confronting them.
I don't mean any of my points at you in particular, just making good conversation. I appreciate the same.