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Originally Posted by Smelly Fred
God does provide truth to all who truly seek it.
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But there are plenty of people who have truly sought and have never found it. Some have spent decades of their lives, been in ministry, done many things in the church, but have never had god provide truth.
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Originally Posted by Smelly Fred
It requires faith to understand that which is of the spirit. You require proof. God came down among us, lived amongst us and "proved" he was God and still there were unbelievers. God wishes for those who follow him to do so by faith. Satan and his demons believe there is a God as they lived with him but rebeled against him.
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I understand all of that. I've preached it.
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Originally Posted by Smelly Fred
Basically God doesn't care whether you believe in him or not.
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Well belief is necessary for salvation, and god wants everyone to be saved.. if god didn't care then he wouldn't have made any effort at all.
"'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?'They replied, 'Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.'"
"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."
"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."
"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life."
"I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life."
"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
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Originally Posted by Smelly Fred
What he is seeking is relationship.
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Great, many people have sought out that relationship with no response.
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Originally Posted by Smelly Fred
See faith explained above
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And that's fine, if you want to just take your position as correct by faith, as long as you are honest about that I have no problem with that. Muslims and Mormons and everyone else all say the same thing too.
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Originally Posted by Smelly Fred
I could give a good answer for that one but I'll leave it to your imagination.
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You said that I wanted to "leave it there", I asked for you to point out where I said I wanted to leave it, and your reply is you could give a good answer but that I should imagine one instead?
That makes no sense at all.
So try again, what's your good answer?