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Originally Posted by photon
You contradicted yourself, you say it isn't true, but then you say "perhaps in some of the crummy churches you've been to", so which is it?
It is in fact true. If you actually read what I write...
No where did I say in every single church, and no where did I say any church actually singles you out, I said "if it is known". Just like any other social group there's things that result in higher social standing and things that result in lower social standing.
In every single evangelical church I've been to in 30+ years tithing was a requirement to be involved in ministry. If you weren't tithing the pastor would usually talk to you encouraging you to, and people that were having financial problems the first thing they were encouraged to do was tithe.
Semantics and irrelevant to the point. The point is that a much larger portion of people self identify as adhering to some kind of belief in God and participating in an organized religion to one degree or another, and unless peter12 is using the same difference in definition between religious and believers that you are and has taken that into account in his informal analysis I don't see how that's relevant.
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I have not contradicted myself, you made a generalization that you hold a lower class amongst the church organization if you do not tithe. You base it on majority, I however disagree, it is in the minority and apparently the ones you have attended. In my 30+ years, tithing was never an issue brought in such manner. A sermon is different from a pastor or leader putting you aside and pressuring you into making donations happen.