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Old 05-05-2010, 05:23 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by MJM View Post
This is basketball we are talking about here, not hockey. A star player in basketball gfet you in to the playoffs regardless of the team around you (especially in the ridiculously bad Eastern Conference).

Chris Bosh is not a superstar, he's a good compliment player, but he's never going to carry a team. His stats are inflated due to the Raptors having absolutely no other threats. I can name 2 guys minmum from each draft since he's been in the league that I'd take in a heartbeat over Bosh. The guy doesn't care about winning, he's a friggen clown. He's more interested in putting out his next youtube video than becoming a better basketball player. Not a guy you give the max.

If Toronto had any veteran players that knew how to win, Chris Bosh would likely earn himself a smack in the face behind closed doors. Too bad Oakley wasn't still around.

Toronto needs to completely clean house. Get rid of every friggin one of these players that have been around long enough to become part of the culture of losing, and move away from europeans (not suited for the NBA, the NBA is all about power, Dunks, and travelling unlike FIBA).

They are never going to stop being a laughing stock when they keep bending over for the very players that keep that reputation going.
I had a long response typed out but I just deleted it by accident while looking up a quote. To summarize:

-we have no idea what happens behind closed doors, and Bosh openly called out his teammates this year so your Oakley comment doesn't pass the smell test.
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After Wednesday's game, Bosh shared his frustration in hushed tones, once again calling out his teammates for not playing hard.

"[The Jazz are] good, they're one of the best teams in the West," said Bosh. "But that's still no excuse. We didn't come to play.

"Yeah, they're good, but we have to [say], 'Who cares? We're still going to win this game.' And I don't think we have that fire right now."

Bosh said it wasn't his job to motivate his teammates.

"I can't instill it in guys," said Bosh. "You have to have it on your own. As much as I would like to do everything, I can't do everything. Personally, you have to bring something to the plate. Whatever gets guys going, we have to find it."

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2010/...#ixzz0n6Gt7djn
-what is the fascination with euros being soft. do other fanbases have this unfounded complex?
-the raps bent over for Vince by signing all his buddies like Alvin to bad contracts to keep him happy. And if you watched the difference between Vince and Bosh's effort for 82 games then you wouldn't compare the two

The rest of the stuff was about lousy roster composition and other stuff rehased from earlier in the thread.
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