[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by flip

Public property is a different story. I think the city and businesses should have more places to place butts. I also think when there isn't one available citizens need to try and find alternatives to just flicking it on the street. This is not the case at the dome. The Dome has made zero effort to prevent littering at the dome. And if they don't care, neither do I. By your logic I should get a littering ticket when I leave my empty beer cup under my seat when the game is over.

I don't really agree with you on this.
I think it would be nice for smokers is this were the case, but I don't think it's a matter of there should be more palces to put butts.

Why should the responsibility be on the public at large to accomodate smokers? Why can't more smokers take the responsibility upon themselves and get something like a portable ashtray (that the city is currently handing out), and cary their butts with them until they make it to an appropriate place to dispose of them.

If someone was walking down the street eating a cheeseburger and when they finished up, and the nearest garbage can was a block away would it be appropriate for them to just throw the wrapper on the ground? Of course not, a reasonable person would expect that he hang on to that wrapper until he found a proper garbage can. But for some reason when those same reasonable people finish up their smoke at the front door of their office building (a place where it is already illegal to smoke) they think nothing of throwing their butts on the ground.

Of course this doesn't apply to everyone, but the huge number of cigarette butts on the ground shows that there are a lot of peopl that it does apply to.