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Old 04-27-2010, 03:40 PM   #91
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I completely believe that technology can change nature, but I don't think that it progresses or advances. In regards to ethics and philosophy, we are right back where we started.
A good way to put it is science informs philosophy. You can use science to determine what action would produce the greatest good for specific metrics (for example), but science can't decide for you if the greatest good is worth sacrificing some liberty for.

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In regards to your last point, I have yet to see a convincing argument that will is completely determined. This negates reason.
I didn't say it is completely determined, I said if it was found then that would change things radically.

And that doesn't negate reason, an argument is still valid or invalid regardless of if it was made by something with free will or not.

And that argument is invalid anyway, even if it did negate reason, so? Can't discard conclusions just because they aren't appealing.
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