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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
This is what I disagree with. Here is a telling quote from that summary.
"The program relied heavily on using the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) as an intermediary for funds distribution, passing of weapons, military training and financial support to Afghan resistance groups."
"....the ISI armed and trained over 100,000 insurgents between 1978 and 1992. They encouraged the volunteers from the Arab states to join the Afghan resistance in its struggle against the Soviet troops based in Afghanistan."
I believe the money was funneled into ALL of these resistance groups. They were all fighting for the same cause right? |
The American's saw the foreign fighters as far too radical and dangerous. Direct monetary and weapons support went to the local Afghan resistance fighters not to the foreign fighters.
The ISI has always played games especially in dealing with the extremists. I have no doubt that the ISI probably did support the foreign Mujahadeen just like they supported the Taliban until that bit them in the ass.
The ISI has worked counter to American interests in the region far more then they've worked in harmony.
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
And........about the photo.
That is what you consider stout? The top picture in particular looks like it is Osama for sure.
If you say they have not been verified then fine. I'm not going to spend my afternoon trying to find proof of that.....but it is pretty obvious that Brezinski had his dirty hands in everything in the middle east.
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Osama Bin Laden is between 6-5 and 6'6 and is estimated to weigh 160 pouds. He's always been nearly skelatal. first and foremost that man is not 6'6. he's not clost to that weight to height ratio. Bin Laden wouldn't wear a Pakistani Army Uniform with what looks like ariborne qualification.
The photo is not certified as real. I don't believe that is Bin Laden, the nose and facial features are different.
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
Have you heard about his book called "The Grand Chessboard"?
Hell, it explains in detail what his ambitions are in the middle east.
"Former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski publishes a book, The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives, in which he portrays the Eurasian landmass as the key to world power, and Central Asia with its vast oil reserves as the key to domination of Eurasia. He states that for the US to maintain its global primacy, it must prevent any possible adversary from controlling that region. He notes: “The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America’s engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.” He predicts that because of popular resistance to US military expansionism, his ambitious Central Asian strategy can not be implemented, “except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.” [Brzezinski, 1997, pp. 24-25, 210-11] The book also theorizes that the US could be attacked by Afghan terrorists, precipitating a US invasion of Afghanistan, and that the US may eventually seek control of Iran as a key strategic element in the US’s attempt to exert its influence in Central Asia and the Middle East. [Brzezinski, 1997]"
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No I'll read the book. You have to remember that when he published his book there were a few well known facts. Afghanistan was considered a mass staging ground for multiple terrorist groups due to the numerous training centers there. The world was already moving towards terrorism paranoia due to events like the bombing of the world trade center, and other terrorist actions. Logic dictates that eventually those malignant training centers would be linked to terrorist activities.
so he's right, gaining control of the middle east at some point due to a terrorist action would in his mind have to happen.