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Wow some in the Arab world think its fake? What a surprise. There's no evidence in that story that the tape is fabricated, they're basing the theory around poor sound quality and the use of profile.
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
Osama Bin Laden was treated at an American hospital in Dubai, and was reportedly visited by a CIA agent among others...just months before 9/11.
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20page...on%20Times.htm
Not to mention some of his family members live in the U.S., and that the CIA armed and funded Bin Laden in the 70's to fight the Russians for them... |
That news story has no source, a lot of allegations, but nothing concrete, so sorry, right now its pretty much a fictional story.
You should read Peter Bergen's book on Osama Bin Laden, you should also read some of Eric Margolis books on the history of Afghan conflicts up to and including the current conflict.
The CIA funded exclusively Afghan Mujahadeen they did not fund the foreign fighters, they were not allowed to train the foreign fighters who based themselves in Pakistan.
From Peter Bergen who you know actually interviewed Bin Laden on a couple of occassions.
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The story about bin Laden and the CIA — that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden — is simply a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn't have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn't have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. The real story here is the CIA did not understand who Osama was until 1996, when they set up a unit to really start tracking him.
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Also from Bergen who interviewed Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf who ran the Afghan operation for the ISI from 83 to 87
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It was always galling to the Americans, and I can understand their point of view, that although they paid the piper they could not call the tune. The CIA supported the mujahideen by spending the taxpayers' money, billions of dollars of it over the years, on buying arms, ammunition, and equipment. It was their secret arms procurement branch that was kept busy. It was, however, a cardinal rule of Pakistan's policy that no Americans ever become involved with the distribution of funds or arms once they arrived in the country. No Americans ever trained or had direct contact with the mujahideen, and no American official ever went inside Afghanistan
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MArc Segein who was a FSO who worked with the Afghan Mujahadeen
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Contemporaneous accounts of the war do not even mention [the Afghan Arabs]. Many were not serious about the war. ... Very few were involved in actual fighting. For most of the war, they were scattered among the Afghan groups associated with the four Afghan fundamentalist parties.
No U.S. official ever came in contact with the foreign volunteers. They simply traveled in different circles and never crossed U.S. radar screens. They had their own sources of money and their own contacts with the Pakistanis, official Saudis, and other Muslim supporters, and they made their own deals with the various Afghan resistance leaders."[28]
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Vincent Cannistraro who was part of the Afghan working group under Regean
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The CIA was very reluctant to be involved at all. They thought it would end up with them being blamed, like in Guatemala." So the Agency tried to avoid direct involvement in the war, ... the skittish CIA, Cannistraro estimates, had less than ten operatives acting as America's eyes and ears in the region. Milton Bearden, the Agency's chief field operative in the war effort, has insisted that "[T]he CIA had nothing to do with" bin Laden. Cannistraro says that when he coordinated Afghan policy from Washington, he never once heard bin Laden's name.
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Bill Peikney - CIA station chief in Islamabad from 1984 to 1986 - and Milt Bearden - CIA station chief from 1986 to 1989 went on record with Richard Minitar of Fox News
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Both flatly denied that any CIA funds ever went to bin Laden. They felt so strongly about this point that they agreed to go on the record, an unusual move by normally reticent intelligence officers. Mr. Peikney added in an e-mail to me: “I don’t even recall UBL [bin Laden] coming across my screen when I was there.
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