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Originally Posted by ynwa03
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According to what you wrote, not only did the Taliban have absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, but they had no way of handing over bin Laden. Then can i ask why the US has been in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban for almost a decade now? The quest for bin Laden is all but over. Why is NATO still in Afghanistan? And please don't give me the humanitarian response, because, let's be realistic, invading a country with tanks and bombs is quite different from being there for humanitarian reasons. There are better places to put American tax dollars if you want to save people, and there are better ways to go about helping a population.
Yeah you can point to the tape of bin Laden talking in Arabic and 'confessing' to the attacks. There is debate about whether he actually admits it or not. There is also instances where he says he was not responsible. Point is...the US has no proof he was responsible, and people will only highlight and prop up pieces of info that are beneficial to them ie. the US claiming he admitted to it. If you look around you can find direct quotes from bin Laden in western media denying involvement.
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The Taliban was harbouring Osama Bin Laden. They refused to hand the man responsible for the attack (and attacks in the past) over, whether they could or not, and they paid the price. Next time, don't let terrorists live under your nose and cut deals with them. It's pretty simple. The US is still there for a multitude of reasons, some humanitarian -- although you won't allow me to bring that up, apparently -- others strategic. War is multi-faceted. You're not the only one to believe what NATO is doing is not roses and sunshine, but there isn't some Bourne Identity conspiracy going on, either.
Osama Bin Laden has said on many separate occasions he wanted a war with the United States. He knew what he did would enrage Bush. He knew, in war, fighting in country you are intimately familiar with and have fought wars in the past on, is supremely beneficial. He
wanted the U.S. in Afghanistan because he knew what he could do there -- just like what he helped do against the Soviets. Osama Bin Laden knew the United States inside of a Muslim nation would raise the ire of many radical Muslims across the world, and, funny enough, those closest to Afghanistan itself. He didn't give a rat's ass about the Taliban, and wanted to create the appearance of a Crusade.
Bin Laden knew what he was doing. You give far too much credit to there being some all-knowing NATO and United States power, and far too little to Osama Bin Laden and his inner council. He's clearly a capable war-leader, and knew far more about insurgency than the United States did on the day of invasion. He new what would happen.
And dismissing proof I give you out of hand does not make it any less valid; it simply shows how entrenched you are on your own belief.