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Originally posted by Flame Of Liberty@Sep 17 2005, 01:51 AM
steal - To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
I dont remember giving the government a permission to take money from me. Where does your (gov) right to my money comes from? Just because you claim it is so? Verbal claim is not a right.
So you reject first definition of the word and conclude that my question isnt worth talking about. Simply put, you refuse to take facts into account only because they dont fit your agenda.
My own terms? Its from a dictionary.
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Way to totally miss the point, as usual.
I don't, and many thousands of others don't, view taxation as stealing. It's part of the greater social contract that ensures and makes possible a stable society in which self-actualization can occur without inevitable harmful or fatal interference from violent others. I know you probably don't buy the social contract thing, and that's where we differ. But it always offends me when you assume that nobody else does either, and they apparently share all your assumptions about the world and then it's just a matter of realizing that your dream state magically fixes all these problems. I believe in social contract, consequently the government is not stealing from me. Until you realize that, you'll never convince me of an argument which accepts that as a premise.
That's what I'm talking about with you arguing on your own terms. You always do it, and I hate it, which is why I very much dislike arguing with you.