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Old 03-30-2010, 07:22 PM   #26
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The Nazi example is fine and dandy, but the problem with the brown shirts is that they were loyal to Hitler.
My point is that because militias do not hold themselves accountable to the law, they are power bases not only for "patriots" but for any demagogue with a cause. There are many examples of militias overthrowing or helping to overthrow a government and imposing dictatorship or worse - there are very few of them resisting tyranny successfully.

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Many militias in the US say they are loyal to the Constitution and the Citizens of the country.
They can say whatever they want - yet if the government constitutionally passed an amendment overturning the right to bear arms, I doubt their "loyalty to the Constitution" would mean much. It would be more accurate to say that they are loyal to their VISION of the Constitution, which is not the same thing at all.

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I feel as this is a great idea. What's more important in a free country than the constitution? Citizens upholding this and holding government accountable to this is important.
How exactly does toting around a gun and running an organization along military lines uphold the Constitution and make the government accountable? Do you think Obama quakes in his boots at the thought some guys holed up on a ranch in Montana might dislike his choices to the Supreme Court, or his health care bill? The whole movement is asinine, they would far better spend their time and money agitating for states' rights if they want to really curtail federal power.
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