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Originally posted by "Agamemnon"+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ("Agamemnon")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Fair enough. I'd debate the points, but, since all government is criminally thieving from us all of our hard-earned resources (apparently), I don't see any possibility for a middle-ground.[/b]
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Yeah. Because there is no middle ground, I agree with that. You either believe no one has the right to steal from other people or you dont. There is no middle ground.
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If you're middle/upper-class, you're right, Capitalism is a godsend. Of course, I believe that only 10-20 percent of the world falls into those categories. The rest are screwed.
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How? Do you think that lower classes in “more capitalist” countries are worse off than lower classes in “more socialist” coutries? Lets say the US vs Cuba? Quite some time ago, I posted here a link to a study about the american poor. People who classifiy as poor in the US would be middle to upper class in many, many other countries. Stuff like “American poor are underprivileged and exploited” is nonsense. They are being taken care of, and are better off than billions of people living elsewhere. I may dig up that study later.
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Are you saying that 'capitalist' Somalia is a better place to live than 'communist' East Germany was? Both had their faults, but... [/quote]
Depends for who. If you were spineless parasite without opinion in East Germany, you were doing just fine. Waiting 15 years for a Wartburg, eating bananas on Christmas only. Those who werent, well... Lets fast track to present day. But do you know how many billions of euro are being funneled to eastern Germany from the west of the country? Its easy to build communism when you have insane amounts of money pouring in. And lets keep in mind who is subsidizing who. If socialism is better, why does east Germany need money from more capitalist west? Why not the other way?
PS Lurch, I will adress your points later. Tijnaz, good points, looks to me you have read Hayek, havent you?