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Originally posted by "Flame On"+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ("Flame On")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>What a thread. Why are you so bent on convincing everyone how great you believe capatalism is? I bet even you could come up with some downsides to it everyone else certainly could.[/b]
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I dont think that capatalism all that great. Capitalism on the other hand... I am not trying to preach to anyone. I am just trying to offer arguments that prove many often repeated claims about capitalism wrong. I am trying to have a debate. You know, on a message board. How crazy.
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Capatalism run within it's true spirit works, as does communism.
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What does that mean? Capitalism is not being “run” in any way. Also I am not sure what you mean by “true spirit.”
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Unfortunately neither have really ever occured although western governments have gotten closer than communists have been able.
Social degredation, exploitation, widening of have and havenots, pollution and environmental erosion, corruption, facism, war, imperialsim etc etc. all have been linked to your vaunted system. I know the others have had many of these also but don't try to hold up capatalism as some pantheon of success and virtue, it ain't.[/quote]
Can you logically prove that capitalism is ineed the cause of what you listed? You know, just because that stuff is repeated hundred times, it doesnt make it a fact. One example for all – corruption. How can corruption exist on free markets? Who are you going to bribe if there are no state officials? Do you need to bribe your local baker to get bread? How does capitalism lead causes wars? Last time I checked states and politicians start wars. I havent seen Microsoft or Sony declare war on anyone. It is hard to “run” capitalism while killing your customers.