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Originally posted by tjinaz@Sep 14 2005, 03:22 PM
So what do you tell the 40 million Stalin killed, the 9 million Pol Pot killed, the victims of the Cultural revolution in China and the millions starving in N. Korea that Socialism rules over Capitalism and look at how good they have it?
As much as everyone bags on Capitalism, in this case its extreme form in Somalia, what about the extreme forms of Socialism? No system has killed more than Communism.
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I suppose this could be easily countered by suggesting that 'Maoism', 'Stalinism', and 'Leninism' are far cries apart from Karl Marx' version of Communism.
Some socialist systems were certainly in place, but they looked and acted a whole lot more like Dictatorship/Oligarchies than any modern philisophical-political definition of 'Socialism' and 'Communism'. If you think that these are necessary characteristics of socialist systems, many socialist European states experience fairly average amounts genocide/oppression compared to the US or (ugh) Somalia. Canada has huge aspects of socialism in it's health and law enforcement organizations, for example, and we've kept our mass-killings well below the millions.
If you think Stalin's USSR = the Socialist's dream, then you've been wearing your blinders too long. Learn about your beefs, then talk about them. Not vice versa.