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Originally Posted by FanningTheFlames
Hey, I wasn't the one talking about how culturally vapid Canadians are, PyramidofMars, you were. And that's what bothered me the most. No fricking crap we don't have Roman ampitheatres in Canada. You must be some kind of history major to have figured that out.
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heh, all I was doing was guessing at what made Q want to return to live in the middle east. It's the same reason a lot of people want to go to Europe. In case you didn't notice I said I'd rather be a Canadian than anything else... multiple times. It's not like I don't have the choice. And I don't need any material benefits Canada offers me. I like the intangible benefits it gives me. I like Canadians and I like being a Canadian.
My complaint about the lack of engagement in the culture here is one made by pretty much everyone who IS engaged in it. There's an awesome duo from Calgary called Dave & Jenn, they sort of do quasi-paintings that really play with the form and their whole schtick is kind of a contemporary young Canadian take on Tom Thomson and the Group of Seven. Their stuff is really cool, and the production of that sort of stuff is what I basically live on with regard to culture, here. Calgary has an urban core that is desperately trying to breed a real culture, but the problem is that my generation, who should be at the core of this, are so completely disengaged and completely apathetic that they genuinely treat even art parties as just an excuse to get drunk. The vapidity and emptiness of
my generation is appalling. I've had loads of wonderful discussions with older fellow Canadians about local art, film, and literature. I work at an independent theater in Calgary and people my age
only come to see 'cool' American and European stuff. Very few people below 30 give a damn about Canada anymore. You should be scared by that. I
am scared by that. Montreal and Toronto are practically carrying this country on their shoulders, culturally speaking. And the situation there is hardly ideal. Note hte difference between Toronto and New York in terms of cultural output.
It's that sort of extreme apathy that scares me. Along with the fact that a major political renaissance in Alberta constitutes a shift slightly further to the right, and that at the federal level we have... Well, I'll let you think about that one.
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Originally Posted by FanningTheFlames
don't start a thread purportedly about white-supremacists and then turn around and say Canadians have nothing to brag about. It just looks bad.
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I was not saying that. Don't take what I said out of context. It all started with my saying that I could have a good life elsewhere, but chose to live in Canada because I liked it the most. Having mentioned Amman in that post, Q replied by talking about it. I replied to him by discussing culture, since he mentioned culture. I'm not sure what part of 'I WANT TO LIVE IN CALGARY' you didn't get. There's loads of opportunities for a well-educated young person fluent in English there. I
choose to remain here because I love Canada.
And like every Canadian, I have a right to discuss the pros and cons of Canadian culture. And particularly my generation's complete disengagement with it and general apathy.
Anyway, Flames0910 seems to have understood what I meant.