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Old 09-11-2005, 10:54 AM   #55
Mike F
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Originally posted by transplant99@Sep 11 2005, 07:38 AM
Im not arguing with you HOZ...but how does that equate to "seperation of church and state"?

Clearly the first amendment ensures that no religion is to be prevented by any government...but is that the same thing? It does not state that governments cannot base laws/decisions etc based on faith based standards, in fact its just the opposite.

The ENTIRE federal system is based on the bible...from laws to the way the 3 branches were established. Read the link i provided from start to finish (yes its a long read) and you will be clear on the fact....no where in the constitution of the United States is it written anywhere that there must be a seperation of church from state....period.
Yes, it's true that the words "separation of Church and State" aren't in the US Constitution, but the rest of that article had me rolling my eyes so hard I got a glimpse at my brain.

Many, if not most, of the author's arguments are based on horribly flawed logic -- If there is a coincidence between A and B, then A must have caused B.

For example:

"An example of an idea taken from the Bible and then incorporated into our government is found in Isaiah 33:22 which says, "For the Lord is our judge, the Lord is our lawgiver, the Lord is our king..." The founding fathers took this scripture and made three major branches in our government: judicial, legislative, and executive."

Ridiculous. As outlined here, the separation of powers is a centuries old political philosophy going back to Aristotle, with the US founders being largely influenced by Montesquieu.

Another:

"Congress has passed laws that it is illegal to murder and steal, which is the legislation of morality. These standards of morality are found in the Bible. Should we remove them from law because the church should be separated from the state?"

So because the Bible says Thou shalt not commit murder, prohibiting it must be a Biblical idea? Because no one ever thought to prohibit murder without reading it in the Bible, right?
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