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Originally Posted by eddly
Could some of the propaganda be true to an extent though? I have no idea, maybe US and Britain tried their best to have Ahmadi-Najad replaced by trying to influence opposition groups as Ahmadi-Najad claims.
I've also read articles that they have blamed the US for creating earthquakes in Iran... so obviously the truth is blurred...
Are those American hikers still being held in Iran?
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AchMyDinnerJacket is just a puppet and does not really matter in the long run. He has no real power. The Iranian Islamic Clerics and Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is the real despot here. The last election was likely rigged with his knowledge.
Khamenei is the Kim Jong Il of Iran under the guise of being the supreme religious authority. He's even very likely going to appoint his son Mojtaba Khamenei, as the next supreme ruler of Iran.
See how this is going? These people can't be bargained with. They are the absolute rulers of their countries and they want nothing. You can put as many critcisms you want into the western media, impose as many government sanctions as you want, the only people that will suffer are the common folk and that will in turn be turned around by the government to yet again get their people to blame the west instead of their own leaders.
All you can hope for is that these people die and better men take their places. Change will come but it will take many long years. The Iranian green movement really hoped that Mousavi would be that person to bring more liberal freedoms to Iran but they are powerless as long as the government can rig elections and controls the police and military. The other thing you can hope for is that discontent spreads far enough that there is a civil uprising in Iran like in 1979 that is also backed by the military (the Iranian Air Force were the first to turn from the Shah to back the Islamists then).
America doesn't have to lift a finger. You probably missed the last summer during the Iranian election.
Iranians aren't dumb and you cannot paint them with the same brush like American conservatives seem to do. These protests by their own people occured almost daily until the government starting cracking down hard.