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Originally posted by Flaming Homer+Sep 1 2005, 04:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flaming Homer @ Sep 1 2005, 04:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

First off, if the reader of this post is religous, please understand I am not blaming you. You were probably taken to a place of worship as a young child, and have been fed religion your entire life. It is hard to shake something like that. Even if you have serious doubts, you will attempt to hold onto it - witness several of the earlier posts. If the churches have you by the age of 4, odds are they have you for life.

Not your fault. Now to the post at hand.


Why is it intolerant to call people out for living in a fantasy?

If I told you I believed I could fly by flapping my arms really hard, you would say I was A) lying B) crazy. If it is B, I might actually believe I could fly, and you would (hopefully) try to dissuade me from jumping off a tall building to test it.

Suppose that there were a bunch of us "flappers" and we decided to try to deregulate the aviation industry - cause HEY! EVERYONE CAN FLY! They just have to BELIEVE hard enough! No, there is no evidence - but you shouldn't disrespect my belief. You can't prove I can't fly. So my theory is sound.

Tell me how my "flapping" story is any different from religon? The belief in something that cannot be proved? The difference is that usually you don't have people from the age of 4 getting together in large groups believing it together in an institution which has massive amounts of money and influence and can have a dramatic effect on public policy which alters "non-believer's" lives.

Religons advocate all sorts of silly things (like distain for gays, contraceptives, and women in the clergy), on the basis of an invisible man who lives in the sky. You figure that might pass me off a little? Public policy on the basis of a lie?

It vexed Galileo (who was brought before the inquisition for saying the Earth wasn't the center of the universe), and it vexes me - for having to put up with people saying "Evolution is just a theory and Creationism should be on par".


Yet, by me saying "You're nuts if you believe in God" is intolerant?

haha, your not blaming him for believing that if he lives a good life than he gets rewarded, you think he's been brainwashed? that's my problem with you science is our god people, your such ******* to religious people. What if YOU are wrong? most of the religious people on here have taken into account the fatc that they could be wrong, what about you? you live your life going on all smug that you got everything figured out and than bam you die, you could just cease to exist and be right, but what happens if you see St.Peter standing right in front of you now what? I doubt there is heaven but I believe strongly in there being a super natural force, shinguard, what if we created by aliens? who knows? I refuse to trust science, science proves itself wrong every year, how am I supposed to rely on some of these "concrete" facts when in 20 years they won't, I don't believe in the bible because it's out of date, and I really doubt that Jesus existed. But why be so arrogant when you are relying on something that everything that "science" has proved will most likely be wrong or not the full story 100 years from now? [/b][/quote]
The contradictions in your post is amazing. You lambaste people for saying anything against religion...
that's my problem with you science is our god people, your such ******* to religious people. What if YOU are wrong? most of the religious people on here have taken into account the fatc that they could be wrong, what about you?

then you say...

I doubt there is heaven

so which side of the fence are you on? When you die and IF it is St Peter, do you say..hey I was HOPING it was you? I trried to believe...um sorry about those times that...

cmon now...take a side and be specific.