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Originally posted by MolsonInBothHands+Sep 1 2005, 01:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MolsonInBothHands @ Sep 1 2005, 01:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cheese@Sep 1 2005, 11:47 AM
just a quick aside to the above comments....Ill take the time to retort molsons stuff later...hehehehe
Watching the stuff happening in New Orleans on TV I was dumbstruck at the looters rambling thru the city. I wonder how many of them were regular church going people? How is that they justified stealing others property then saying that God saved them later?
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I can't answer that, nor to me does it matter. I will take a guess that there are a lot of "Humanists" grabbing what they can right now too. I wonder how many people that volunteer, and send money are also church going people? Nevermind... those are positives, and really boring to ponder. I also wonder what some people who saw the looting in Baghdad, and accused them of being animals, are thinking now that the animals are a little closer to home.
Bottom line is, I can't imagine being there, or going through what they are. I can see looting for food, clothing, water, medicine, and even firearms in a scenario like that. However, pulling out a plasma TV and jewelry is a little different story. [/b][/quote]
LOL...OF COURSE some church going Christian folk donate time/money/goods/sweat to causes. Thats not the issue, and I have no problem with anyone who feels the need to assist anyone. See the Humanist manifesto I posted much earlier in the thread. That doesnt make them a "good" Christian...or a God fearing Christian does it? It simply makes them good people. This entire discussion is on what basis do the people you talk about live their daily lives? Do they use the bible and ALL of its tenets to live their daily lives or do they pick and choose what suits them? Its my understanding by reading the retorts from most here that its the latter....they pick and choose what suits them.
In that case I specifically asked some questions that noone answered earlier.
so based on the writings of most Christians here it appears that you dont take the bible literally?
You pick and choose which verses to read literally and slough the rest off as allegory or metaphoric?
The problem is....how do you know which ones to read literally? Are the verses you take seriously the same verses that others do as well? If there is any doubt about which verses apply does it bother you when you wake up? Is the idea of "I know them when I see them" practical when it comes to a Christian standpoint, and is that what the Christian churches teach you?
If any of the Bible is non-literal, why can't it all be?
and finally....
IF the reason stands that you are able to pick and choose which versions you take literally, is THAT the reason there is conflict amongst religions?
Old-earth creationists claim young-earth creationists cling to an untenable position in the face of the evidence. Young-earth creationists denounce old-earth creationists as hypocritical liberals who have given in to atheist influences. As a result, creationism, unlike evolution, is not a unified position, but merely a group of inconsistent, conflicting arguments.
The only point I was trying to make re the people in New Orleans was how can they justify stealing property then suggesting God saved them out of the other side of their mouth? Is it selective choices in their bible? Humanists dont have that manifesto...and IF Humanists are stealing shame on them too.