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Originally posted by Flashpoint@Aug 31 2005, 03:44 PM
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@Aug 31 2005, 04:57 PM
EDIT- as for your general public statement, you do realize that there are roughly 2 billion christians right? that accounts for 33% percent of the worlds population, then add in the 1 billion muslims and such, Atheists and others form a small percentage of the general public, I guess most just have a high affection for hockey teams? 
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I just have a hard time getting over the hypocricy of someone saying that science is right and religion is wrong when it is a scientific fact that matter cannot be created from nothing.
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Is that a fact? I don't know that. Nor have I ever heard anyone of scientific repute say it. Suppose for a moment what you say is a widely believed scientific principle. "Matter cannot be created from an absence of matter."
Guess what? The principle can CHANGE! That is the beauty of science - it isn't dogma. It isn't to be believed in with faith. All good scientists QUESTION these things. If you can show something to have a preponderance of evidence against it, you can SHIFT the belief system.
Where is the hypocracy in that?
Who created the first atom? How did the first atom come into being is a better question. One that doesn't presuppose anything. I don't know. Nor do I feel the need to make up an answer - like "The invisible flying spagetti monster".
As for your EDIT: Your numbers are off. The fact you think the earth only has 6 billion on it is sort of a bad place to start. I won't go further than that other than to recommend a google search on the subject.
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Exactly, things in science change, which means it's entirely possible that all this evidence for the Big Bang could mean diddily squat in 50 years. Thats why in science facts are harldy facts because tons of things are proven wrong , discovered and altered every year, until science goes as far as it possibly can all these scientific facts mean nothing.
I was off by 500 million but I was also off by 200 million christians so it still equals the same percentage, as for the communist remark, they aren't even comparable, thats taking into account the population of those countries, I have a hard time believing that even half of those 2 billion people acutally believed in communism, Religion isn't always a forced thing, for kids it is but when they turn 18 they can make whatever choices they want, the majority of christians are christians because they want to be. [/b][/quote]
yes you are right homer...in 50 years Science can be different...the PROBLEM is we will still be having this same stupid discussion with those who believe God did it...with no explanation whatsoever...other then its because someone said so.