[TheSutterDynasty]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

You don't know what the hell you're talking about and sound like you're just quoting out of some outdated textbook.

Here's what Lyle MacDonald says about how much protein you need.



http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...et-part-2.html

That's 2.4 to 3.1 grams per kg of body weight and a lot higher then your "ceiling".

Here's another article that debunks the myth that excess protein damages your kidneys.

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/dear.htm

I said the additional stress placed on the kidneys from high protein intake perhaps may lead to long term damage. The second article (which actually has references, good for you) you linked acknowledges the stress but notes that generally the kidneys adapt. I am not aware of any long term studies done with very high protein intake.

Your first link has no references, and he continually points out that he's selling a book, and trying to get you to buy it.

It would be nice if one of the posters here that are into science (photon, thor) could come in here and tell you guys a little something about the scientific method, because it's clear you disregard it entirely.

Here is where I'm getting my information. Every claim made in this textbook is backed up with a proper reference to a peer-reviewed article or paper. The author does not have an agenda, and is not trying to sell anything.

Just think about trying to get 3.1g / kg of body weight of protein. My "natural" diet - the diet I had when totally disregarding protein intake - had something like 1.2 g / kg of body weight. A protein supplement would get me to 1.7 g / kg of body weight. That's still only half what this clown recommends.

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

So, once again I ask you, how much do you weigh?

By you continually asking I can't help but think that if I was Arnold in his prime you'd take my every word for religion. Anecdotal evidence does not suffice in the least.

I'm 6'1, 185lbs. I have right around "ideal" body fat; if I lost any fat I would be close to, if not in, the dangerous, underweight category for body fat. I resistance train ~10.5 hours / week with another few hours stretching, as well as a couple hours of cardio depending on the time of year (ie hockey season).

So since this means so much, how much do you weigh?

Originally Posted by Azure

Good luck with him GTF.

He brought up the same lies in another thread.

You're awfully stubborn. I assumed that perhaps you learned something by not responding to me in the other thread, but it turns out you're much more entrenched in your product-pushing internet authors than actual scientific facts. Pity really.



Edit: Here is a link regarding protein intake. The references are there at the bottom.

Edit2: Oh and this is rich; frap's first link suggests 45%-55% of calories come from carbohydrates. While I totally disregard that link because of the source, Azure should try to explain to us why this author is out to lunch based on his (Azure's) extensive "knowledge". It should make for a good argument based on the least credible sources.