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Originally Posted by Clarkey
Ads like this only make me more cynical about the global warming movement, don't try to tug on my heart strings, give me some facts!
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If I do a post search, will I see that in the past you have historically been on the side of proactive movement against global warming and you are now more cynical?
I used to lead environmental and social justice groups and we would have conferences and share ideas. I remember one workshop I was in where we went around the room asking people what got them out involved in the issues; what moved them to praxis. Invariably, it was an emotional response to seeing or hearing of the issues. It was never the cold hard facts. Now, knowing the facts is important. Nothing makes me shudder like watching "Penn and Teller" show how little the average 1st year university hippie chick/earth dude knows about the issues. I think it is important to do your own research and learn as much as you can about the issues that you are standing for. However, you don't bring life and energy to a movement with statistics and figures. You can't keep people awake with statistical analysis. We're not going to move the powers that be to act without the public being moved to do something.
So basically what you are asking from the environmental movement is to deploy tactics that will fail.
As for your "human ingenuity" of desalination, dykes, population redistribution.... those things will cost several trillions of dollars. Can you imagine what it would cost just to keep Manhattan dry? Or were you thinking of moving all of New York inland? That's your cost-effective solution? I know I should just avoid these threads because they make my head explode.