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Old 01-21-2010, 04:13 PM   #111
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz View Post
Sorry, screwed up my guys who's names start with a "P", big deal.
The point was that Peter was the first Pope, and that that authority would extend to future Popes, so my point stands.
What point? I was saying that what Paul said isn't what Jesus said, and your counter-point is that the Pope is the ultimate authority in the Catholic Church? So what?

Further, not knowing the difference between Peter and Paul isn't exactly a "little" mistake. It's like confusing Judas and Jesus and then covering up by confessing you can never keep those "J" guys straight.

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Attack a simple mistake all you want, it doesn't change the fact (one that you've not addressed), that the Catholic Church (and I'm sure many others), has some very simple rules about when it is justifiable to wage war. So if this is a justifiable war, then are the guys making the guns being hypocrites despite following the teachings of Jesus?
I'll make it very simple for you: the Catholic Church is also at odds with the teachings of Jesus. Why don't YOU show me where Jesus talked about justifiable war - not the Church, but Jesus.

The institutional perversion of the original message was the main problem that the Reformation was supposed to address, but didn't. Nowadays, instead of one misinterpretation of the words of Christ, we have hundreds to choose from - or reject. Humans are much better at changing the meanings of their religious texts to accord with their beliefs rather than vice versa.
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