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Originally Posted by Dagger
Ferguson's security relates to past success. They know he'll do a good job. But he had tons of time to show that. Rafa was far more successful in his first years here, than Fergie was at United.
Ferguson has a far better bench. Rafa's lack of funds don't leave much room for second choice players. That's why there is a difference in standing.
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The first point that you make is fair but I believe that if United had a new manager that came in the same time as Rafa did the former would have more job security as well. This relates to the second point that you made, Ferguson has a far better bench. He assembled that bench, which works for United, without spending Chel$ki kind of cash. He was in a similar situation to Rafa but has done better.
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Originally Posted by Dagger
Look at the results last year for Liverpool when Benitez had it his way. 4-1 at OT, and a win at Anfield. Even this year, we got a win against them without Gerrard. It was because of Benitez's tactics.
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Fair play to Rafa for beating United but there are 18 other clubs in the league where you have to apply winning tactics, which something he has not consistently been able to achieve.
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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
Arsene gets a free pass because the owners aren't really involved and are content to be a club that makes the CL, if he ever missed that then I think he would come under some pressure...
I do think Liverpool win wednesday, Spurs never win these important games that they are supposed too (and with no Yossi, Torres or Gerrard Spurs are superior on the pitch by a fair margin).
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I don't want to sidetrack the Scouser thread with Gunnar talk so I'll make this brief. If you look at what the owners have done off the pitch it is very hard to say that they are not involved. Also, out of the players you listed only one was a forced sale. I do agree, however, that Spurs will lose on Wednesday. It's just the way it is with Spurs...