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Originally Posted by Addick
Nothing is said about Wegner because he can justify their lack of silverware and his success is being measured in different terms to Rafa. Wegner has explicitly stated that he is building towards something and has placed the emphasis on securing continued long-term success in the future rather than short-term glory, which can excuse him from not, or at least justifiably explain why he hasn't been, winning anything lately. On the other hand, Rafa has not rejected the board and supporters of Liverpool's mandate for more instant success and we have to judge him on the short-term basis.
Therefore, when we look at Arsene's results we have to look at them over the long run and when we do we see that he is achieving a level of success as he is clearly making progress. However, when we look at Rafa we see failure as the Big 4 clubs view success as winning lots of trophies and in the time he has been allotted, which is the short-term optioned he chose by default, he has failed to accomplish this.
Also, while Liverpool has had great success in Europe under Rafa's rule have they been as competitive in the BPL as Chelsea and United have been in the CL?
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Arsenal's goals at the start of every season are the same as everyone of the top 4(I know it's the same for every club in the world, but for the big 4 it's at least in reach) and that's to win as many trophies as possible. Wenger hasn't delivered since huge money was injected by Chelsea, if we are going to say Rafa hasn't. It's rubbish if you think Wenger is given a pass, because he's in it "for the longterm" do you not think every other top 4 club is? Arsenal are trying to win every year, don't fool yourself.
I'd also like to point out, that Rafa has assembled superb young talent in Dani Pacheco, Lauri Dalla Valle, and Nathan Ecclestone. Also Martin Kelly, Daniel Ayala, Stephen Darby, an Jay Spearing have all stepped in on short notice and not played piss poor. Insua is another one, and while he hasn't looked great recently, he's starting to get capped by Argentina.
Hell if Lucas played for Arsenal or United, the commentators would jizzing themselves. Fact is Ngog is another nice young player. He didn't look well today, but 4 goals in 10 games is a fair return, especially considering the man Rafa was ridiculed for passing on by everyone(Owen) has 2 in 14 appearances.
Well no the board wants him to win now, they're trying to make the price of the club even more ridiculous than they value it. If they really wanted him to win, they would give him the funds to do so. He hasn't been given the proper tools to deliver.
How is Rafa supposed to compete with the likes of Chelsea, when they can spend 18MP, on a squad player in Yuri Zhirkov, who has not been ridiculed like Aquilani, who in fact costed less money, and has played when available and looked good in the process.
And who exactly will we get as manager, seeing as Rafa just signed a 5 year extension, which the Yanks will have to buy out, or pay it, along with pay top dollar for a good manager- which we most likely won't get. Roy Hodgson or Alex McCleish as Liverpool manager would be horrendous. Remember contract extensions came out of Rafa's transfer kitty, just to show how cheap the Yanks are.
He has injury problems with Torres and Gerrard and no cash for decent backups, hell no money for a proper winger.
Rafa has been more successful in Europe than domestically, and he's admitted he's better suited for European competitions, but while he's not won the league, he's come damn close, set the record for most points, all while being vastly underfunded.