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Originally Posted by 6FeetDeep
I see a whole lot of excuses for Nemisz in this thread, like he was the "defensive" force on that line or Kadri and Hall are puckhogs. Truth is Nemisz was brutal. His skating couldnt keep up to this tournaments pace, and whenever Canada needed a goal, Nemisz was benched off that line and Dejardins put someone else on that line. Put it anyway you want but you couldnt be impressed with him in this tournament. He'll be lucky to be a 3rd line checker just like most of Sutters picks. It's just frusterating when you see the Oilers tanking, and having some good prospects, and the Canucks having Hodgson and other good prospects, and we got virtually no offence and no top 2 picks for this years draft. I hope we win the cup this year because things could turn around quickly in this league.
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Edmonton??? Other than Paajarvi, I like our forward prospects better than theirs (I exclude him since his being there isn't a result of great scouting, it's a result of totally sucking), and I think the D and goaltending is objectively better at the moment. Hodgson was also a result of a year of suckage. I like the Canucks forward prospects, but I also think our D is better than theirs. They have Schneider in net, but he's never going to play there with Luongo's deal the way it is.
I wish our scouting was better, but it's not bottom of the barrel.
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Originally Posted by looooob
I'm not excusing Sutter by saying this, just underlining his approach. It may well be the wrong one, as someone contrary minded could say if he didn't trade all those 2nd rounders , the guys drafted with them would all be scoring forwards on the team now and hence they wouldn't need the Bourques etc via trade
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It fits with Sutter's cap philosophy. Pay for D, in net, and top forwards, and fill the rest out. It's decently effective, and I think if you change the balance, and move some money from D to forward, it may be even better. There is one thing the Flames don't have that some teams have...overpaid 3rd and 4th liners. No Chris Neils or Samuel Pahlssons here. Pahlsson is an effective player, but a forward for that money should simply produce more. No exceptions. Chris Neil's contract is just a huge joke.
I think that sometimes Darryl's trading down in the draft isn't the greatest idea We had the 17th pick in the draft in 08, although it did have us getting Cammalleri, I just wonder if there was another way to bring him here that didn't have that pick leaving. If the Tanguay trade happened first, then perhaps the Canadiens 1st rounder packaged with something else would suffice for LA. Tough to say, but that 17th overall pick would have been nice. Tedenby, Eberle, Del Zotto, Sbisa were all drafted between then. Perhaps Sutter even wanted one of those guys, and just missed them. Of course GMs talk about who they're taking (that same draft, Buffalo traded up one spot...ONE...to draft Tyler Myers). The biggest problem is that Sutter's penchant for getting rid of 2nd rounders doesn't give him much trading up power if a guy he covets is hanging a few spots above him, and it even neccesitates a trade-down if Sutter feels he needs that extra pick. While it remains to be seen where Teubert goes from here, Myers and Doughty would look really good on LA right now...funny story, the 09 3rd rounder Buffalo gave to LA to trade up that spot became our very own Ryan Howse. Funny too, as you see Sutter trading up in later rounds, but rarely in the 1st. I think it's something that he should explore sometimes.