Quote:
Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor
Whats the point in even responding to you??
READ WHAT I FRACKING WROTE
The people who would know would be employers, post secondary educators, police, judges, ect.
The people that were on the program provded several studies and statistics showing the continued decline in the ability for recent highschool graduates to read and write at a high school graduate level. If you want that info go find it yourself, I am not taking hours to seach for this stuff.
You are the expert in everything aren't you IFF. I could tell you that the sun is powered by nuclear fussion but you wouldn't believe me until I provided pages and pages of scientific data, and even then you would claim that the scientists who were involved in those studies are biased, right wing and conservative party members. You argue just for the sake of arguing.
I have never put someone on the ignore list but you are getting mighty close. I know you don't give a crap but every time you post something it makes me cring.
|
Well, I'm sure this will make you "cring" too... but actually, there's no point in debating with
anybody if you're unwilling to be accountable for your own words.
Your exact words to bcb were: "quite frankly,
a teacher wouldn't know." You later qualified your statement to include post-secondary educators--and since I have been a post-secondary educator for the better part of a decade, I was glad to assume the mantle of expertise and debunk the unfounded nonsense that you were spewing. You then cited a news program that relied on the expertise of "educators"--i.e. not post-secondary educators but
real educators--teachers. The very people whose expertise you dismissed just a few posts before (ironically, they're about the only people whose expertise I might be inclined to accept--certainly I would never believe a police officer, whose experience is likely skewed toward the lower rungs of the scholastic success ladder).
The fact is, on this issue (as with a few others) you once again show that you have too many
opinions and not enough
knowledge.
Next time try a little research before leaping headlong into some hackneyed ideological stance. Put me on ignore if you like: I'm not going to cry about it. But maybe there will be more point in
other people having debates with you if you're willing to take the time to construct a rational, reasoned argument on the basis of evidence, rather than making a claim because you saw a TV program one time that kind of seemed to support something you already believed.
The fact is, that if you think I'm an "expert in everything," then you profoundly misunderstand my style, and my approach to these issues. My academic training tends rather to make me think that I don't know anything at all yet, and that any opinion I form ought to be backed up by evidence and reason, rather than the tissue of emotional appeals and alarmism that seems to be your preferred approach. I'm prepared to back up my claims. Why aren't you? That's not "doing my work for me"; the onus is on you to prove that you're not full of crap.
Until then.... you're right. There isn't any point in arguing with you. Without evidence, those sorts of claims are just naked and inflexible ideology--and that generally makes dialogue pointless.
However, I will gladly agree with you on the topic of the sun, and will add that it rises and sets equally on liberals and conservatives alike.