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Originally Posted by FanIn80
You know... I keep hearing good things about Java lately. I'll be honest, Java really turned me off in the early days with its clunky VMs and those annoying early web apps which were just animated bodies of water in a loop. Even today, I still hate that first moment when I realize there's just no way to avoid installing a JRE on my newly set up machine. Perhaps I should give it another look though. That GWT framework does sound interesting.
Also, it's good to hear some good things about C# and ASP. I do like the .Net IDE, so it's nice to know there might be a valid option for me in there.
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I haven't used the .Net IDE since 2005; it was a hog then but I've heard good things lately. My favorite is Eclipse for Java/HTML/etc. Lightweight enough to run on my netbook but surprisingly powerful. Some of the best refactoring tools I've ever used. Awesome plugin support.
The whole write-once-run-anywhere java concept hasn't exactly panned out as well as planned as JREs never really became totally standard in OS's. But almost everything requires the runtime library to be installed - C++ has a runtime environment, the .Net framework is far heavier than any JRE, etc.
Just to be clear, the JRE is of no consequence here. Web app clients don't need it, and as a developer you'll need the JDK (probably will come with the IDE, like most languages).