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Originally Posted by troutman
You also get terrible service in Europe where the tips are included.
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I get terrible insincere service and sycophancy here where tips are not included. All the service I experienced in Europe was fine by my standards.
Do you notice how in a Chinese restaurant there is hardly any service and the waiters don't really look at you after they have brought you food? I'm fine with that. I want to eat my meal, not be bothered. The entire service thing with restaurant etiquette is a cultural thing with what people expect and don't expect.
In both western and chinese fine-dining culture, if want extra service or appreciate it, I think you slip them a few dollars at the table personally when they come around. Tiping on the bill that someone else might collect and then keep or split later on doesn't ensure that the server you got gets their reward or just deserts.