[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by _Q_

The problem is their deluded idea that God gave them the land to live there and all others should be eliminated since they are going against the word of God.

You are taking a belief to the extreme. If this were really the case all Gentiles would be denied citizenship and deported (or seemingly by your belief simply shot in the streets).

That's the main problem in the state of Israel. The idea that you must preserve the Jewishness of a country by all means possible is just wrong.

Then you agree that Saudi Arabia and Iran trying to preserve the
Islam-ness of their countries by all means possible is also wrong.
Would you agree to a Palestinian country if it were ruled by Sharia law?
Sounds like only secular countries need apply in your world.

Here's an example: What if Canada wanted to preserve the "Englishness" of Canada. What if French Canadians were not given equal rights as compared to their English brothers? How about building English only settlements in Quebec that are guarded by English Canadian soldiers that are accessed through English only roads. What if French Canadians could not build houses in Quebec because it was impossible to get a building permit for French Canadians, but English Canadians could get one in a couple of weeks? How about having checkstops at every corner of every French town in Quebec that turn getting to work a 3 hour ordeal every morning. How about English Canadians slowly taking over Montréal, the heart and soul of French Quebec, renaming all the street names English names, renaming the city Mount Royal and then claiming it as the undivided capital of English Canada. What's the problem with that? There's about 20 other countries in the world that use French as their first language, they should all move there. Why do they need to live in Canada?

It sounds a little different when the context changes, doesn't it?

As was mentioned above, you are reliving the 1700's. But you are missing a few key points. Your analogy may come close IF you note that Quebec is not a part of Canada but was a part of France and is now "disputed territory", that English Canadians had settled there centuries in the past with multiple archeological sites that show it. Don't forget that the FLQ is shooting at Ontario every day and celebrates when they blow up school buses. No one is talking about the heart and soul of the French, that would be Paris not Montreal. English Canada has offered to leave Quebec, demolish their towns, pay restitution, and give up half of Ottawa for them to have as a capital. But of course, it is never enough. Quebec wants to Canada to accept an influx of Quebecers who claim BC, AB, SK, MB, & ON as part of their home knowing that with the next Canadian election (no elections in Quebec, French law has priests in charge) that Quebecois will be the majority and once they are in power can adopt French law - a side affect would be making French the national language, hope you studied.

Anyone can see how flawed the attempt is to analogize the Mid-East conflict with any other.

I am not opposed to Jews living in historic Palestine. Heck I am not even opposed to claiming their rights to a nation in the region. What I do have a problem with however is implementing blatantly racist and illegal policies in order to ethnically cleanse the land from all the Arabs that they seem to believe are subhuman.

Historic Palestine is really Historic Israel. "Palestine" is what the Romans called the area and the British picked up. During the Ottoman Empire rule it was known as the province of lower Syria. During the rule of the Babylonian kings the area was know as the Kingdom of Israel (as noted in stone tablet tax rolls dated from that era. Israel paid tribute to the more powerful Assyrians and Babylonians).

As others have said, if Israel was pursuing a policy of ethnic cleansing, they are doing the worst job in history.

Want to see ethnic cleansing done right look a little South West of Israel - no Jews in Gaza, No Jewish businesses in Gaza, no synagogues in Gaza, no Jews allowed to visit Gaza. No Jews allowed in Saudi Arabia or Syria either.
There a few Jews in Iran, but they are basically showpiece hostages - someone has to stand trial for being an Israeli spy every few years.

IF Israel were really trying to do as you say, then please explain the Arab businesses operating through out the country? Or the Mosques in Jaffa, Acco, and Nazareth (among other cities)? Or the Muslim/Arab members of Parliament? Or the Arab Cabinet Minister?

Having a problem with Israel's settlement policy in Judea & Sameria is a legit position. Israel withdrawing to the pre-1967 boarders would bring about peace is also a legit position. Accusing Israel of ethnic cleansing or that "they seem to believe [Arabs] are subhuman." is boarderline antisemitic. Accusing Israel of this is subtext for the ages old accusation that Jews fundamentally believe they are the "Chosen People" and that gentiles are beneath them.