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Originally Posted by zuluking

The CRU can't even demonstrate how they ended up with their dataset in the first place. After all, they tossed their source data. (seriously, who does that?) No one knows exactly what went into HADCRUT3.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6936328.ece

This has already been discussed.

No they didn't, 95% of their source data is available online right now, you can download it. The rest isn't available because they aren't allowed to make it available; the licensing of the data required that they use it then discard it.

This also relates to some of the FOI inquiries.. if they are legally not allowed to share the data, of course a FOI inquiry is going to be rejected.

Originally Posted by zuluking

The only way to understand what went on at UAE is to attempt to reverse engineer based on particular stations. And the logic behind the adjustments is even lost on the coders working the project.
http://www.anenglishmanscastle.com/HARRY_READ_ME.txt

Climategate is about more than some emails.

This is what I mean by handwaving. Claims without support, or vague support (posting a billion line text file).