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Originally Posted by photon
Thanks for the links, but I don't see how either of those address the specific claim that the HADCRUT3 dataset is corrupt.
The first one takes the raw data and creates some graphs which the author says disagrees with the IPCC report.. well of course if you start with a different set of numbers you are going to come up with a different graph. This isn't evidence the HADCRUT3 dataset is corrupt, this is the author disagreeing with the adjustments made to the raw data. It would be more compelling if the author first demonstrated an understanding of how the raw data was adjusted and why, and then why he disagreed with those adjustments. The way it is written the logic is backwards, he takes the raw data, does something (which I don't know is even valid, I'm not a statistician), sees cooling, then concludes that the report is wrong. "I do something different and I get the answer I want therefore you are wrong" is not a good argument.
The second one is similar, it takes issue with a specific instance of how the data was adjusted. The author admits to not knowing why an adjustment was made in the way it was so decides that's evidence of corruption; finding something and then fitting it to the desired conclusion, exactly what the author is accusing others of. This would also be more compelling if the author went out and found out why the data was adjusted the way it was and showed why that adjustment was incorrect.
I had thought we were talking about "climategate", specifically how these emails demonstrate that the HADCRUT3 data set is corrupt based on the stolen emails, that's what I was asking for evidence of.. the links you posted are completely unrelated to that.
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The CRU can't even demonstrate how they ended up with their dataset in the first place. After all, they tossed their source data. (seriously, who does that?) No one knows exactly what went into HADCRUT3.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6936328.ece
The only way to understand what went on at UAE is to attempt to reverse engineer based on particular stations. And the logic behind the adjustments is even lost on the coders working the project.
http://www.anenglishmanscastle.com/HARRY_READ_ME.txt
Climategate is about more than some emails.