Thread: Climategate
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:05 AM   #401
zuluking
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Sure, but a site made by an organisation (like a company or a university or a institution) will have info for the organisation in the DNS record, regardless of who makes the site.

This way it makes it look like some IT guy (not a scientist) disagreed with climate change and just made a site then found a few people that agreed with him to sign on.

Which doesn't mean much, science isn't done through random websites.
My point is it is irrelevant.

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I said I picked a few names out of the list at random. I'm not going to go through a list of 150 names and vet them all. Most of them aren't climatologists.

I didn't say none of them were published, I said the ones I looked at weren't. I can say likely none of them are because as far as I know there's no published papers in relevant journals which propose an alternative to the consensus that explains all the observations.
According to leading AGW scientists, it is made extremely difficult for journals to publish anti-AGW articles without getting black-balled. But maybe that's only the East Anglia folks that do that.

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No, that's what people like Glenn Beck want to make people think. But there is no evidence that the temperature data is corrupt. Please provide the evidence that it is. Be specific.

You haven't demonstrated the data is corrupt so the rest does not follow yet. And even if the data is corrupt, as you said there are other sets of data which say the same thing, and say it's worse than this set of data does.
I've never seen Glenn Beck in my life. How about:
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/200...ka-bodged-too/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/0...t-darwin-zero/

Claiming that scientists are the only sentient being capable of comprehending this subject is disingenuous. There are intelligent people out there without letters behind their names that can make sense out of it, too. And publishing in a journal doesn't gold-clad a paper based on crap data. It just makes it widely distributed.

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If you have support, then provide the support. Again be specific, hand waving doesn't mean anything.
I think I've been fairly calm. Can you please point out the "hand waving?" Do you mean like this: "No, that's what people like Glenn Beck want to make people think."?
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