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Originally Posted by HOZ
Check the references on the actual study! Well....lookie, lookie.
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Sweet jebus. looksie. There's a huge difference between citing a paper and using their data as you claimed.
Let me give you an example where they're cited.
Consistent with this picture, a comparison of reconstructions of Southern Hemisphere temperature (Mann and Jones, 2003) and ice core proxies for atmospheric circulation covering the last 2,000 years suggests that in general temperature and circulation intensity are associated such that cooler temperatures coincide with more intense atmospheric circulation and warmer temperatures with milder circulation (Mayewski and Maasch, 2006)
Looksie here. Comparing results and observations with previous studies IS NOT the same as "using" their data and in other cases citing it as part of a literature review.
Let me guess Mann and Jones spend all their spare time throwing rocks and pissing in the ocean and are directly responsible for the 5cm sea level rise in the last 15 years (80%) more than was projected.
What's your thoughts on this observed, recorded data?
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Originally Posted by HOZ
without even considering what we are saying. That data from the CRU has shown that Phil Jones(about to be investigated) and Michael Mann(under investigation) and those that work for them have, at best, been very incompetent, dishonest and unethical. At worst, they have committed fraud, fixed data to torque the results to get huge grants (95 billion!). When you lose Monbiot as a booster for the 2 biggest proponents of the AGW theory.....and saying what I have just typed. What do you have left?
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Hmmm ... thousands of scientists? What do I win?
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Originally Posted by HOZ
So far from you we have gotten basically
1. Your science sucks
2. You don't know anything
3. Check the real science out
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1. How would you know? All you've got is regurgitated blogs and cartoons
2. OOOOOHHH! That sure told me

3. Blogs and cartoons it is then ....
Get going on that data Hoz, there must be a good cartoon or two in there.