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Old 12-01-2009, 10:10 PM   #257
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From what I've read some raw data is gone from that University.. because the license of the raw data they obtained dictated that once it was "used" it was to be destroyed. (Incidentally this is part of the FOI requests too, some licenses restricted sharing the raw data, so requests for the raw data would of course be denied).

That doesn't say that the source of the raw data deleted their data. In fact probably the opposite because if a source licensed their data they did so because they saw value in it, so they're not going to delete their data. Anyone else is free to go to that source and get the data themselves to make their own paper that contradicts the ones out there (which no one has done for some reason).

And the amount of unavailable data being talked about is small...

http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/...news/CRUupdate

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Over 95% of the CRU climate data set concerning land surface temperatures has been accessible to climate researchers, sceptics and the public for several years the University of East Anglia has confirmed.

“It is well known within the scientific community and particularly those who are sceptical of climate change that over 95% of the raw station data has been accessible through the Global Historical Climatology Network for several years. We are quite clearly not hiding information which seems to be the speculation on some blogs and by some media commentators,” commented the University’s Pro-Vice-Chancellor, Research Enterprise and Engagement Professor Trevor Davies.

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The remaining data, to be published when permissions are given, generally cover areas of the world where there are fewer data collection stations.
“CRU’s full data will be published in the interests of research transparency when we have the necessary agreements. It is worth reiterating that our conclusions correlate well to those of other scientists based on the separate data sets held by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS),” concluded Professor Davies.
So a bit different than the "ZMOG TEH DATA!!1!" than many of these blogs and sites are reacting to.
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