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Jetsfan · 11-26-2009, 04:16 PM

I'm not going to throw you out of the country, but I do suggest that you re-evaluate your determination that the greatest problem in Western society has to do with taxation, especially in a thread related to the disaster of a country (without government or taxes) that is Somalia.

If you go back and read my post, #37, you will see that I said that the problem with Western Society is that people do not want to take personal responsibility for they're actions.

I'm trying to keep up with you here, but you're a shifty one. Actually, here I would probably be in favour of a rescue mission to save a Canadian citizen. I know that we face an ever-present risk of gigantic mountains abducting people (and we all know that if we save them it will only inspire other mountains to join them in their evil scheme) and forcing them to strive for their summits out of a not-quite-understood plan for profit, but the value of human life and all that compels me to approve.

You mean just like the Somalis flew to Red Deer and kidnapped Amanda out of her house

Well since we're working in the service of clarity, you are not currently obligated to pay for her poor decision. If the government of Canada's policy was to pay any and all ransoms immediately, you would be obligated as a citizen to pay your share.

Correct, and if this were government policy I have a right to voice my opinion without a fellow citizen like you telling me to move to Africa if I don't like it.

More importantly, this story has nothing to do with you. She made a grave mistake and people who care about her, and others who care about people in general collected money to free her. I don't know why you are complaining about taxation in relation to a story that has nothing to do with taxes, or why you are complaining about having to be responsible for others in a case where private citizens CHOSE to support her (and I'm guessing that you did not choose to help her, since you explicitly stated that you wouldn't help, even if she was your own family member)?[/quote]

Correct, I would choose not to help her on the basis that she made a personal choice to go there and as an adult she is responsible for that choice.

If others want to help her great.

11-26-2009, 04:16 PM	#50
Jetsfan Account Removed @ User's Request Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Calgary Exp:	I'm not going to throw you out of the country, but I do suggest that you re-evaluate your determination that the greatest problem in Western society has to do with taxation, especially in a thread related to the disaster of a country (without government or taxes) that is Somalia. If you go back and read my post, #37, you will see that I said that the problem with Western Society is that people do not want to take personal responsibility for they're actions. I'm trying to keep up with you here, but you're a shifty one. Actually, here I would probably be in favour of a rescue mission to save a Canadian citizen. I know that we face an ever-present risk of gigantic mountains abducting people (and we all know that if we save them it will only inspire other mountains to join them in their evil scheme) and forcing them to strive for their summits out of a not-quite-understood plan for profit, but the value of human life and all that compels me to approve. You mean just like the Somalis flew to Red Deer and kidnapped Amanda out of her house Well since we're working in the service of clarity, you are not currently obligated to pay for her poor decision. If the government of Canada's policy was to pay any and all ransoms immediately, you would be obligated as a citizen to pay your share. Correct, and if this were government policy I have a right to voice my opinion without a fellow citizen like you telling me to move to Africa if I don't like it. More importantly, this story has nothing to do with you. She made a grave mistake and people who care about her, and others who care about people in general collected money to free her. I don't know why you are complaining about taxation in relation to a story that has nothing to do with taxes, or why you are complaining about having to be responsible for others in a case where private citizens CHOSE to support her (and I'm guessing that you did not choose to help her, since you explicitly stated that you wouldn't help, even if she was your own family member)?[/quote] Correct, I would choose not to help her on the basis that she made a personal choice to go there and as an adult she is responsible for that choice. If others want to help her great.