[Thor]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I disagree that my taxes should have to be put towards feeding, housing, and caring for convicted murderers. That's not the only reason I'm for the death penatly, but I do feel like a system that actively works to keep these animals alive by using public funds is wrong.

Well as has been repeatedly mentioned, death row inmates cost the tax payer much more than a life imprisonment inmate. So your 1 argument about this issue being about money is invalid.

If you spent 1yr in a federal or max security prison, you would quickly think that its club med living in a prison. The violence, rapes, brutality, and hopelessness is overwhelming. Much worse than a fate that is simply, assisted suicide. ;D

If some psycho kills my family and goes to jail for the rest of his life, he's guaranteed food, shelter, and medical care for the rest of his life - and the kicker is that I technically am paying for it. This doesn't even address the fact that I, as a contributing member of society, am not guaranteed any of these things for the next week, let alone the rest of my life. How is that justice?

So you support torture. Nice. Thankfully a justice system is not based on emotions or revenge, if it was we'd be back in Roman days watching people get thrown to the lions. Its a social contract btw, we pay for prisons and incarceration because its a benefit to us as a society.

Capital punishment is something that outside of the US has been removed from civilized society in the west, and parts of Asia. If you look at the list of those nations still supporting state sponsored murder its a top notch group of theocracies, dictatorships, oh yeah and the US of A.

The Night Stalker got married a few years back. Charlie Manson sits in prison, watches TV, and answers letters all day. The death penalty is definitely more of a punishment.

Manson does suck, I mean when its a complete psycho like him really life is not a big deterrent, he's not sane. But when the vast majority of people in prison suffer immensely from imprisonment, time does matter. Like I suggested earlier in this thread, its much worse to face life in prison vs a death penalty. I know for me if I had a choice, death or life in a hell hole like prison I would need all of 1 second to decide for death.

Death penalty has put to death 1000's of innocents, its used by backward regimes, by theocracies and outside of the US no western nation supports it.

That says a lot, civilized people don't want the government killing people. Its sad this is a debate in Canada, but some people want to use emotions over logic.

So I can only assume you're against abortion and euthanasia, too?

I'm for all means to reduce abortions, and that abortion is a last option for early term pregnancies. Late term abortions should only be for safety issues, nothing else.

I support euthanasia, I think its ridiculous to force people who are clearly going to die; to suffer needlessly because of some stupid beliefs that its morally wrong.

Watch anyone die of cancer and other incurable disease; then tell me its OK for them to spend days, weeks, or months in immense pain just so we don't 'intervene' and put them out of their misery, based on some 'morals' ???