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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
What you have done is completely dishonest. I never even veered towards what you 'paraphrased' nor did I ever have a position beyond if torture can save lives, great. I have said nothing about Guantanamo's prisoners or anything else. Yet you keep shoving it down this thread. Somehow you think that if someone supports torture (not all of it mind you in my case - even though we never got that far) they support a whole grand list of items. This is simply not true. You have created and share in a stereotype that if anyone supports torture then they also have a whole litany of 'wrong ideas' to go with it. That is wrong and simply stupid.
You don't even realize it. Whatever you say in any thread will viewed in this light - that you have lied in your posts and wrongly quoted people for somewhat incorrect statements, and once brought up you simply ignore it.
Way to be an internet loser! You have also asked me to clear up things that YOU SAID...not what I said. How does that make any sense?
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Ok... Here's the deal. You repeatedly discussed the real situations and consequences of war and torture. For example you mention many countries do it, George Bush USA, bombing Japan, calling people naive for not understanding what's actually going on in war, etc. You repeatedly put the conversation into real terms rather than hypothetical terms yet as soon as you get called out on any of its problems in the real world you hide behind the 'i'm only talking about my fantasy world' defence and cry foul.
I'm not lying, I'm not dishonest... Have a look at a couple of RogueUnderoo's replies to you for example. Clearly, I'm not the only one having trouble understanding what you're trying to say and/or not following your frequent jumps from fantasy land to the real world. Maybe... just maybe... its how you worded your post and tried to go about explaining yourself that's causing the confusion.
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I think a few of you are confused with the music torture used in Guantanamo and my opinion which are not connected in any way shape or form.
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And part of the problem is you posted in a thread about the real use of music torture and stated an opinion on it without sufficient qualifiers to adequately inform everybody that the opinion you were posting is not regarding what the thread was about and instead off topic and out of left field. This is even more of a problem when you have the first reply to the thread.
As for your ethreat of an ecloud hanging over my ehead whenever I post on a hockey message board... I'm not all that frightened.
Anyway... this has gone on long enough and its getting pretty pathetic. If you want to continue on your butt hurt rant, my PM box is always open. If you actually want to discuss the issues the thread is about, feel free to.