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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
I never said anything about being accused of being a terrorist or whatever it is you keep trying to bring into the argument. I was very clear, I think torture can be justified if it can prevent murder. IF IT CAN PREVENT MURDER!!! If someone is not a terrorist, how is torture going to prevent a murder? Debate Guantanamo elsewhere. I was very specific about when I think torture is worth it.
You may find guilt vs. innocence really important, but I am not sure why you keep bringing it up with me, since I have no comments, good or bad, on the subject. I am not partaking in that debate, yet you keep trying to ram it down my posts. I also agree with capital punishment, do I have to be clear that I mean only on guilty criminals?
Go take a course somewhere on how to correctly quote someone...you cannot paraphrase and use quotation marks. On top of that, you can paraphrase but must only maintain the integrity and meaning of what someone wrote. You on the other hand are inventing a bunch of things you seem to wish I had wrote, but I never did and then putting quotation marks around them. Are you trying to mislead people into incorrectly attributing quotes to me? Or are you simply making a mistake? If it is a mistake simply stop doing it.
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I'm paraphrasing you in an attempt to clarify your points and state them more simply. I believe the integrity of what you were saying was kept in tact. If you do not, I openly asked you to clarify them yourself.
Also, since this thread is regarding real torture techniques to be used on real people in the real world I think it would be beneficial to discuss it in real terms and not vague hypothetical situations that can never, have never and will never happen. That's what this thread was started about and that's what people have been discussing. If you want to debate movie script-esque fantasies where torture will save the world go do it elsewhere.