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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Why do you keep cramming in the part about guilt or innocense or due process or anything else? I simply stated that torture is valid to prevent mass murder in my opinion.
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Due process is being mentioned because simply being accused of being a terrorist shouldn't strip you of any and all rights you should be granted.
Guilt vs. innocence is being mentioned cause its a huge problem in real life and is a massive problem currently when 80% of the people they're torturing are the wrong guys. Even if you agreed with torture in a hypothetical situation that only exists in your head, this has to come into consideration when you put your theories into practice.
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
I never said two wrong make a right so where did you quote that from? I am honestly having a hard time figuring out your posts. You seem almost rabid in your lust to condemn me for something I did not even allude to.
In the past massive weapons of mass destruction have been used to prevent future killings.
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"Two wrongs make a right" is coming from.. "Someone tried to commit terrorist activities in the past, therefore its ok to violate international agreements, strip people of their human rights and torture them." edit: this is paraphrasing, not an exact quote.
So what you're saying is... "We've done worse in the past so this isn't a big deal". Is that a fair assessment of your motives of bringing up past use of nuclear weapons? If not, please feel free to expand on your point here.