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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Thanks Calgaryborn, I think I happened to stumble into a thread where they were not welcoming apposing points of view. I was basically belittled for not agreeing with them.
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Further to the points I've made about the ethics of torturing people, the long term fallout, concern for the innocent victims, the breaking of international agreements, the obvious human rights problems, etc. and you're fine with the consequences of all those issues, there is a simple question: Does torture work? By that I mean: does it produce quality intelligence?
There is more and more information (studies, articles, testimony of ex-military) out there that is suggesting that it doesn't. Someone being tortured will tell them anything to make them stop even if its untrue or no longer up to date. If they don't have anything, they will make something up.
edit: I'm not against opposing points of view. In fact, I'd welcome them and some intelligent debate. If you have facts, logical reasoning, statistics, etc. please bring them to the table. If you don't back up your points beyond "Terrists boo! Torture yay!", your opinions will be mocked and ridiculed. If you build a logical, rational and fact based position defending torture, in the end I may disagree with you but at least I can have some respect for your argument. Who knows, build a good enough argument and you may even sway some people.