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Old 10-28-2009, 03:01 PM   #505
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For example:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...2eb70f12c286f1


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19388722

Both of which would argue that it is debatable that vaccines with adjuvant may do harm.
I thought we were talking specifically about squalene being harmful, not vaccines with adjuvants. Don't move the goalposts...

The first link is dependent on the paper which I had mentioned had been questioned technically, so it's results should be questioned as well. Plus the second paper simply says "These results suggest that the production of ASA in GWS patients is linked to the presence of squalene in certain lots of anthrax vaccine.", which doesn't establish that it is harmful. That's all covered in the .mil link I provided.

The second link says "Our review indicates that, with rare exceptions, associations between vaccines and GBS have been only temporal. There is little evidence to support a causal association with most vaccines."

And a related paper said:

"An increased risk of GBS may be also related to vaccination, but with presently used vaccines this increase remains below one case of GBS per one million doses."

So still I don't see any health problems related to squalene.

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The question I have for you is, if given the choice between the vaccine with adjuvant and the one without, which one would you take based on the evidence (or lack there of)?
All things being equal, the one without, because apparently you get more sore from the one with the adjuvant and could get a small fever.

That's with all other things being equal.

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The fact that people with the choice or who are already sick are in fact getting the non-adjuvant formula speaks volumes I think.
Because they've all read all the clinical trials and papers related to the topic, that's why their choices speak volumes? Most people walking in probably don't even know what an adjuvant is.

Give anyone a choice between two products which give the same end result (immunity to H1N1) and one has less "stuff" in it than the other, of course everyone will pick the "less stuff" one, even completely ignorant of everything else other than it has "less stuff", that's just human nature.
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