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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame
I along with many others started to post more often in the OT forum because of the fluff/drivel that continues to be the greater part of what you find on FOI. 50 posts in a row with another sad take on the backups name for example. So my take on what was suggested is that in that regard it's not reorganization but a renewed emphasis on hockey discussion.
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Unfortunately, with regards to the FOI fourm, I don't think a reorganization is going to be anything more than a band-aid for a third-degree burn. It's just turned into a breeding ground for animosity and pissing matches. There always seems to be two sides that destroy any thread on that forum: the guys who crap on every player without producing anything to back up their statements; and the overly-militant Flames fans, who take personal offense to anything negative said about the team, even if it's valid.
When I first joined, I used to spend the majority of the time in FOI. I usually just lurked, but would sometimes vent when I really needed to, and praise when I felt the team deserved it. I hate to single-out specific posters, but guys like GoJetsGo are part of the reason I spend most of my time in the OT and Other Sports forums.
I think the only way the problem is going to be fixed is through a crackdown by the mods. The mods do a terrific job as is, but I think there are too few of them for a site this big. I often wonder if the reason we don't have more mods is because nobody volunteers, Bingo doesn't want too many guys with keys to the castle, or if they just simply don't see the need for it.
The biggest thing that needs to be cracked down on, IMO, is the personal attacks. I know I've been guilty of them in the past, but I'd like to see a zero-tolerance policy on calling someone stupid for having a different opinion. If you disagree with someone, back up your posts with some stats or facts. If the the person you're debating with doesn't have the stats or hockey knowledge to back their argument up, then leave it at that. You can walk away from an argument without berating the other party. The ironic part of this is you'd think the newbies would be the worst for this, but I think the veteran posters are far worse offenders. I can't count the number of times a "vet" as jumped down a new guy's throat and belittled him for saying something like '5 goals allowed in back-to-back games is unacceptable from a defense that is paid this much.' I think some of the vets should drink a little of their own medicine and start leading by example.
The other issue that needs to be dealt with are the tired cliches and attempted humour. The "I Like" threads are out of control. However, this is gets kind of tricky. Some of the funniest moments have come from threads that were "fluff" or posts that were off-topic (the "I Like Andrew Ference" thread comes to mind. All that being said, the repetitiveness of these threads and memes gets pretty tedious, and maybe handing out some warnings and/or infractions to the more blatant and obvious offenders would curb some of this.
I hope the mods don't take this as me trying to tell them how to do their jobs, because that's not what this is. Just my personal suggestions on what would improve FOI.
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There used to be a serious component to the OT as well which seems to have also moved to the backburner. Here I think it is reorganization. A serious OT section with another dedicated to chat threads etc. There was nothing wrong with a mixture but once again the fluff is becoming overwhelming.
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I disagree with this. The "serious" threads in OT are almost as bad as the FOI threads. Most of the serious threads just devolve into pissing matches and cheap shots between liberals and conservatives, theists and atheists, or conspiraists and non-conspiraists. I hate toilet-humour, but I'd rather wade through a million "poop" threads than some of the political threads on here.
Also, I got hit in the fruit-basket by a ball, while playing football last night. Right on the tip of the penis. It hurt like hell. It also happened to me right in front of a Danish girls soccer team. That certainly doesn't deserve its own thread, but it does fit in the RTT because it's hilariously humiliating.
P.S. If any of you Danish chicks are reading this; I'm really upset that you were all laughing at me but none of you came over to see if I was okay.