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Originally Posted by Sliver
I don't think I talked once of censorship. I said I don't know how lies should be contained, but I was just hoping for some acknowledgement that lies are 1. at the least counter-productive and 2. inherently wrong.
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Containing information, even lies, is still censorship. Generally, yes, I will agree that lies are counter-productive and wrong. I was arguing that censorship (or containing the lies) is worse.
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Originally Posted by Sliver
The problem isn't with the stupid. Intelligent people use lies to mislead stupid people all the time. Look at republicans. Even intelligent people will allow lies to rule them to go with the flock. Just look at patriotism and religion. So the problem isn't stupid people. Stupid people can't do much because they're stupid. The problem likely has more to do with intelligent people using stupid people through lies and intelligent people being too cowardly to counter lies when faced with them.
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Going with the flock and patriotism are governed by emotion. If you look at my post, I defined stupid people as people that allow their emotion to trump logic. There's nothing inherently wrong with conformity, patriotism , religion or the emotions that drive them. The problem is when people use these emotions as a basis to dismiss rational, logical arguments or embrace illogical ones.